!NOW YOU CAN TAKE THIS LIE DOWN FOR GOOD ,,,THANK YOU !!!!STEVI. Every description used can also be said about the angelic beings. Adam blamed the woman, the . The Garden of Eden, the terrestrial Paradise known also as the Garden of God, is one of the most famous settings in the Bible. God walking with people normally suggests closeness and intimacy and fellowship. In each case, they are basing their ideas on something that isnt stated in Scripture. God called (using a Hebrew word that also means "to summon") Adam to face . God walked with Adam and Eve in the Garden (Gen. 3:8). We know that God is Omnipresent. It doesn't come before, which furthers the notion that God would have been content with them being without clothes, at least provided they didn't eat from the Tree. While its within the realm of possibility that Adam and Eve were 60+ when expelled from the garden, I find it extremely unlikely. On page 57 of Heaven you say Before the Fall, God came to Eden to visit with Adam and Eve (Genesis 3:8). This passage refers to God walking in the Garden after Adam and Eve have fallen, but before God has confronted them. Hi David, It was part of the sad deception that the man and woman who wanted so much to be like God, rather than obtaining the stature of deity, are afraid even to commune with him. I think your comments were probably addressing this point though (http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1747). I have a problem with Christians continually repeating that the Bible says they walked with God in the garden because it doesnt say that. This is stated in the incident where Moses disobeyed by striking the rock instead of speaking to it (Numbers 20:1011). First it should be recognised that Genesis is a seed box if you want details you need to keep reading. IMV they were walking in the IMAGE for which God created them with the FREE WILL to CHOOSE. God fashioned Eve out of Adam's rib (Genesis 2:22). So there minds were NOT YET CORRUPTED until God ALLOWED there FREE WILL to be tested, just as the Father through the Holy Spirit ALLOWED Christ Jesus to be tested in the wilderness. Totally agree with you to know that not everything was told to us, but take what we are told and use it for good, not for argument. 16 The Lord God commanded the man, saying, "From any tree of the garden you may eat freely; 17 but from the tree of the knowledge of good and . He does indeed come down, but this time for confrontation and judgment, whereas before it had been for fellowship. What if Adam and Eve were not human as we are today. Either way, prior to sin there was not a fractured relationship between God and man, but there certainly is as a result of sin. When everything fell apart, so did the people. Or perhaps just the knowledge of being disobedient & the result of knowing their nakedness is what caused him to be afraid. Your email address will not be published. We know that God was with Adam and Eve at all times and wherever they were. Simply quoting Genesis 3:8 does not disprove the point of my post since that verse never says that they walked with God. This is something I have heard countless times, and based on the number of responses trying to justify such a view, its pretty clear that a lot of others have heard it and/or taught it. So if the strong wind idea is actually being conveyed by the Hebrew, then there is no textual basis for claiming that Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden in the cool of the day. Adam and Eve are walking around in the Garden of Eden, and they meet up with this serpent who asks them an interesting question: "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the . On the sixth day of Creation, God created 'man' in the form of Adam, moulding him from 'the dust of the ground' (Genesis 2:7), breathing the breath of life into Adam's nostrils. I dont believe this is a knock-down, drag-out argument, but given these details and many others described in my book, I believe angelic beings are very likely made in Gods image. Adam and Eve's Separation from God . I think that would be fantastic. 4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, when the Lord God made the earth and the heavens. In conclusion, the whole of chapter 2 & 3 causes me to conclude that Adam regularly communed with God somehow; and to me probably daily (or at least almost) since we know we are the apple of His eye. It was a choice that they both made in full knowledge of what was right and wrong. #2 They both "saw" their nakedness. They hide among the trees. I to am searching regarding worship in OT times and wondered about Adam walking with God. You can see from the above that God decreed several things for Adam to honour and obey. But what did they actually hear that made them afraid? God appeared and revealed Himself in many different ways throughout the Old Testament. Therefore God was not always with them in the Garden, not as we know it anyway. What does it even mean? Third, Adams response at seeing Eve confirms the point: This is now bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh (Genesis 2:23). If that suggestion is accurate, then it would have been a physical presence of God coming in judgment, similar to how He spoke from the whirlwind in Job. It is doubtful that God threw Adam into a confusing environment where he would be overwhelmed with the array of plants and animals. The point was to urge Christians to pay closer attention to the text of Scripture. However, God did come physically to Abraham and ate. Answer (1 of 22): Yes. They and their children would experience sickness, pain, and physical death. God's presence is also noted by . Thanks for your thoughts. No one is perfect, but when you are walking with God your desire should be to see your own selfish desires die for the sake of seeing God transform you more and more into the image of His Son: "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. Instead, it encourages people to draw a distinction between what Scripture actually states and the inferences we make based on those statements, even if they are quite reasonable. If God was in spirit form hiding would make no sense, how can you hide from someone you cant see? 6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. Why would anyone ask such a silly question? Do you think the lord actually cares if pastors are saying Adam and Eve did walk with God? Sincerely, Adam and Eve's "murder" was considered by Jesus to be at the "beginning," not the end, of geologic time. The idea of God openly talking and physically walking with Adam and Eve is that God is interested in humans and want to develop a close friendship with them. Seems to me there was plenty of interaction & communication between Adam (& Perhaps Eve) and God. The complete bible account of the story of Adam and Eve can be found in Genesis 1:26 to Genesis 5:5. What an absolute honor we have as human beings to be made in the image of the Creator and to be called to demonstrate who He is and what He is like. Ed, In fact, nearly as soon as the Lord have man the woman they went together directly to the forbidden tree (as soon as God turned aside to rest from all the work of His creation) they were tempted, took the fruit and ate it. So it seems there would have been little or no point for God to have EVER been in their presence in the manner that this idea assumes: actually relating to them in the ordinary manner in which one human normally would relate to one or more other humans. He was given power and authority by Father God to create the universe and all life within it. They were created pre-programmed by God. Tim. Perhaps you should take a moment to read the blog post before commenting. I just dont get your argument. When He asked them why they hid they answered Him. Maybe this is why pastors and teachers teach it this way (that God regularly walked with Adam and Eve), because they can see from the word study that this was a regular occurrence. As I mentioned in the conclusion of the article, it is certainly possible that the Lord walked with Adam and Eve, and if He did, then it may well have been the preincarnate Christ who walked with them. They may have done that, and I wouldnt have any problem with it. So Adam hears a sound, which he knows is the sound of God. For more on the issue of Cains wife, see this article: https://answersingenesis.org/bible-characters/cain/cains-wife-who-was-she/. In Job, God spoke out of the whirlwind. That certainly could have been the case if God made a physical appearance (called a theophany), as He did in other places (e.g., Genesis 12:7; 18:1. Maybe it is implied elsewhere in the Bible? There are several possibilities, such as siblings, nephews, and nieces. Even if this translation is accurate, which is debatable, it does not say that they walked with God. ? Satan. Just a quick note: The verb used here in verse 8 to describe the divine movement of God mihalli (sorry, my keyboard isnt able to type this word out correctly) suggests iterative and habitual aspects. The only mention of walking in that part of Scripture is while Adam and Eve are hiding from God in the garden. They were not merely spiritual beings at that point. Therefore, it is likely that Adam and Eve had been experiencing close fellowship with the Lord God. I think this point has to be acknowledged regardless of whether you think the sound is God walking in the cool of day or God manifesting himself in a strong wind. In a similar way, we are told in the New Testament to walk in the Spirit (Galatians 5:16). Hi Kevin, So comparing Adam and Eve to children who need to learn to talk, eat, etc. In other words, he wasn't Jesus of Nazareth walking . Whats not fine with me is saying that the Bible says something that it doesnt. Would that seem that they must have heard His voice at some other time. Thanks for reading and sharing your thoughts. Please note that both boys were conceived and born after sin had entered the Earth. ~~~~~ There are other passages in Scripture about those who did walk with God. This post isnt about whether they enjoyed fellowship with Him prior to sin and walked with Him in a metaphorical sense. Then it says that Adam & Eve hid themselves from God's presence and then they confessed that they "heard" His voice and hid themselves from His voice. Keep up the good work brother, the TRUTH shall be the only thing that sets us free. Your email address will not be published. Tim. It says, "they heard the sound of God walking in the garden", and, " they hid themselves from the presence of the Lord. Gen 3:8 - Adam walking with the Lord God in Eden. This walking refers to living a life that pleases God. It doesnt say that they were walking with God. It was always my thought they in fact walked side by side as one would imagine them doing so. That would be really cool. Thank you for helpful writing. They turned to their own ways, sinful ways. When God asked them how they knew they were naked, and asked them if they had eaten from the tree they were not to. Its not that the inferences are necessarily wrong, its that they should not be mistaken for the Word of God. The anthropomorphic description of God walking (mithallek) in the garden suggests the enjoyment of fellowship between him and our first parents. Thanks for reading. That's why he was walking in the garden: he wanted to meet with Adam and Eve and spend time with them. Privacy Policy. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him. As I mentioned in the conclusion, God could have walked with them, but the Bible does not tell us that He did. Randy Alcorn (@randyalcorn) is the author of over sixtybooks and the founder and director of Eternal Perspective Ministries. In each case, they are basing their ideas on something that isnt stated in Scripture. Let me shine light on tis section you have written: If you will count the number of people listed as being created, you will find Adam #1, Eve #2 then Cain #3 and Able #4. so thats a total of four people listed as being on the Earth. There are some who says He came in angelic forms throughout the Bible yes He did but thats through another likeness. Other Biblical accounts clearly show this - as it is God who speaks with, walks with, and assist humans to discover His nature and His love. Ive heard so many people claim that the Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden (and some even add these words, in the cool of the day). Well, in Genesis 2, Adam names the animals, and the only words quoted from him in Gen. 2 have to do with what he said when he met Eve: This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh (Genesis 2:23). AMOS 3:3 CAN 2 WALK TOGETHER UNLESS THEY BE AGREED? The sound of movement. And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. I dont think it was a mystery to themat least not completely. And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day (Genesis 3:8).The use of the term walk with reference to God brings up the issue of God communicating to humankind in human language. Looking at that from an opposite perspective; Is it not also true that it is not stated they werent walking with God? Who were they conversing with? If they dont walk with him no blessing no rain no food and punishment 7 times more. Before the fall, Adam and Eve were without sin and immortal . Although I agree, you simply cannot prove this one way or another, however I believe the scripture gives us enough evidence to assume with confadence, that Jesus did take a physical form and did actually, literally walk through the garden. We know that the Israelites did eat some of their animals during the year. It also seems to assume that they were in the garden for quite a while when they almost certainly were not there for long at all. Genesis 3:8, NLT: When the cool evening breezes were blowing, the man and his wife heard the LORD God walking about in the garden. Ive added that to the article now to help clarify that point. So what did they hear in the Garden? The Hebrew Bible depicts Adam and Eve as walking around the Garden of Eden naked due to their sinlessness. He could have spoken out of a whirlwind to them and banished them from the Garden in that form. Your entire post is irrelevant to the discussion because you are trying to show what it means when it says that someone walked with God. My guess is that they would not have had nearly enough animals to eat over their forty year wandering. Of course, from this view God was perceiveably with the pre-Fallen Adam and Eve, so that they had the privilege of regularly hanging out with Him. But Adam and Eve were almost certainly not in the Garden very long prior to their Fall. Thats correct, and I write about that in my book, Fallen. Adam and Eve and God literally walking next to each other in perfect harmony. The chronology of the genealogy of the man is followed throughout the Bible. To the second point in your conclusion, I think it is quite speculative. Its sort of like saying, The Bible never says Jesus wasnt married, so He might have been. Its true that Scripture never states this plainly, but there are certain inferences people make from some verses in an effort to support such an idea. I hope this clarifies my objective in the post. Who is this that would kill him? They were to work the land 6 years right? Adam and Eve surely knew that the punishment for rebellion was deathand even if they didnt understand the fullness of that word, they knew it wasnt good. No, the One they were hiding from was one they were familiar with walking in the garden. Because they nearly always cite the verse about Adam and Eve hearing the sound of the Lord walking in the garden. Now go to verse 17 Cain made love to his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. It is very possible that the angelic beings are also made in the image of God. He created a vast array of angels prior to the creation of man, so theres no guarantee that God spent a bunch of time with Adam and Eve. Gods presence is also noted by his walking in the camp and sanctuary of Israel. Hi Ian, We walk with the voice of God as well. I could not find it. The goal of this post is to encourage people to take a closer look at the Bible instead of repeating what theyve heard. There is a possibility that we should understand that Hebrew text to be speaking about something more like the whirlwind at the end of Jobthat they heard the sound of God moving about (not walking) in the Garden. "Walked with God" is a favorite expression in Genesis, depicting the righteous conduct of Israel's heroes, including Enoch, Noah, and Abraham. 1991 - 2023 Eternal Perspective MinistriesAll Rights Reserved. But at least enough time passed to provide people who lived in Nod and a wife for Cain. I have no doubt that they heard an audible voice when God asked, Where are you? or when He asked who told them that they were naked. And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel.". Is it that they are referred to as sons of God? holy ones? Thats not exactly a clear cut and dry case, beyond dispute, based on those sparse details. And how many times is this a supporting argument for a main point or the main point itself? So, it is not a far stretch to suppose that God and Adam might have walked together in the Garden, if not regularly, else why would God have gone to the trouble to create a garden and put man into it, if not to have a direct relationship. Also, when Adam and Eve were created, I dont believe they were automatically filled with knowledge as how to take care of themselves, the animals, the garden,etc Tim- Thank you, as I came searching for information on this before placing and they walked with God in my book I am writing! God sent Adam and Eve out of the garden where grew the tree of life. Nothing in that passage says it, and thats the main point of this post. Genesis 2:15-17 doesn't provide many details, 15 Then the Lord God took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to cultivate it and keep it. It would be accurate if the point of my article was to claim that Adam and Eve did not walk with God in the Garden prior to sin. The Lord can speak out of it and He can perform any other functions, such as making coats of skins, while in that form. 3. Verse Concepts. Lord God (Jesus) walked among Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Seasoned or mature believers should know the text, the text is the milk, living the text is the meat. Genesis 3:2-5. For more information on the subject of Heaven, see Randy Alcorns book Heaven. It was the sound of God that Adam heard. I found it interesting that with all the opinions to the idea of walking with God in the comments section, not too many have thanked you for letting us know that Gods Word does not say that Adam or Eve walked with God in the Garden. So if this is accurate, then what Adam heard was the sound of the Lord moving in the garden, as indicated in the same translations mentioned above. Never stop, word will not go void! When Eve gave birth to Seth (at age 130) she viewed him as a replacement for Abel. Hello! I hope you will continue in the pursuit of God's Truth. 14Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.. I think we both agree that God doesnt need to appear in human form to bring the animals to Adam or to perform surgery on him. They are not taking a leisurely stroll with God, they are hiding from Him as He comes to announce His judgment. In all likelihood, it comes from a misunderstanding of or making an inference from Genesis 3:8: And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day (NKJV). To spend time with Him. It is true that they had not experienced death yet, they came pre-programmed with an ability to speak and understand things. I agree that it is very possible that God walked with Adam and Eve in the garden but there is no written statement(s) that support this. But even that would not prove that He took strolls with Adam. I was afraid because I was naked, so I hid.". Yes, Adam and Eve were sinless, but this doesnt mean that Gods physical presence needed to be right where they were. Thank you for reaffirming to me that we can say anything about God and find some reason for or against our reasoning, and that is why we have to be very careful to know what Gods Word says! It means closeness, intimacy, communion. With that in mind, what makes you say, from the text of Genesis, that the phrase translated cool of the day would be better translated a strong wind? If strong wind is the better translation, when prior to this event did God manifest himself to Adam and Eve in a strong wind in such a way that when they heard the strong wind on this occasion, they knew instantly that it was the sound of God? Hi Tim, Hi Bob, One good example is Leviticus 26:12 AND I WILL WALK AMONG YOU AND BE YOUR GOD. We'll come across one more tree towards the end of the chapter. Notice that I said that I would argue that they are probably made in His image. I didnt claim that there was a clear cut and dry case that is beyond dispute. My argument wouldnt focus on the things you mentioned. 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