As I child I used to stay in Kilmun and watch the ship and submarines. Terms & Conditions 2005-2023 SeScoThis work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International LicenseThis web site and its pages are licensed for personal, private, or non-commercial use only. HOLY LOCH PORT Ailson Downs Rankin's Brae, Sandbank, Dunoon PA23 8FE Tel: 01369 700810 Mobile: 07843 241320 Fax: 01369 704749 e: info@holylochport.co.uk We finally visited Dunoon for 3 days in 2012. Commenting has been disabled thanks to the attention of scum known as spam commenters, Page last modified on Wednesday, 08 March 2017, at 12:20. The US Navy had originally planned for Proteus to arrive on March 4. This bar is a great choice if you are in the mood for British and Scottish cuisines. Please have a look at our facebook page and submit the request to join. DID ALOT OF HIKING WITH THE DUFFLE BAG FULL OF BEER. Stephen,Yes, Scotland was, and remains, I'm sure. The loch looks very different without COMSUBRON 14 sitting out in the middle of it, and I couldn't identify any of the former Navy buildings that comprised the shore part of the base, other than the old Navy Housing units. Gunzenhausen (German pronunciation: [ntsnhazn] (); Bavarian: Gunzenhausn) is a town in the Weienburg-Gunzenhausen district, in Bavaria, Germany.It is situated on the river Altmhl, 19 kilometres (12 mi) northwest of Weienburg in Bayern, and 45 kilometres (28 mi) southwest of Nuremberg.Gunzenhausen is a nationally recognized recreation area. Thanks for writing.Paul, Hello Paul I think you may have been there a little to early but Im trying to find the name of the ship that docked in 1989 around that time I lived at the holy loch I was a young girl back then and I can certainly tell you things are a lot different now the bace bowling ally are all gone everywhere is clear. VABenefits@holyfamily.edu. I lived in Dunoon and went to the primary school in Hillfoot St., from 1963-1970. Hi Paul,I was stationed with you in Holy Loch. The Site 1 U.S. Navy Submarine Base (Subron 14) at the Holy Loch in Scotland was Established in 1961 and closed down in 1992 as the Cold War ended and new te. We were there about a week. Burial will take place at a later date at Arlington National Cemetery. Scotland. Had wonderful shipmates and made lots of civilian friends during my "liberty" timeRaquetball, softball, bowling, hiking, several pub-crawlslife was always interesting:) Thanks for the memories Paul.John WalshHenrico, VA, John,Thanks. Nice article Paul, I was on the USS Natick 1969-1971 and saw both the Simon Lake and Canopus exchange duty stations. Stopped in Holy Loch for resupply on USS Thomas J Gary DER-326 summer of 1970. Site One was a US submarine refit facility which was located on the southern shore of the Holy Loch for 31 years. The loch is still there, of course, but there are no U.S. Navy ships or crafts left.I'd like to return to Holy Loch and Scotland with my wife, who has never been there, and see the loch and the area.Thanks for writing, and thank you for your service as well - as a Navy wife, you also served.Paul, I was afraid that would be the case. If you have any questions or comments - please contact me. Holy Loch, near Dunoon, Argyll, Scotland A Brief History of Site One: In the autumn of 1959 the US Government presented the problem of providing forward servicing facilities for the first SSBN Squadron in the U.K. Studies were made of all the suitable places to base a refit facility and it was decided in July 1960 that Holy Loch should be the site. We all should be proud of our duty there. I agree, Site One played a key role in the Cold war.And yes, like you, I'm proud of my service at Site One on the Saugus.Thanks for writing.Paul, Yes I was on board three submarines that ran out of holy loch. And in education, a 'service pupil adviser' has started work with Argyll and Bute Council, funded by the MoD's education support fund, to provide advice for children of forces personnel in the area. The World Health Organisation (WHO) traces the beginnings of quarantine to the 14th century: "A period of 40 days or 'quarantenaria' became established later as the usual period of isolation for sea-borne travellers and goods suspected of harbouring infectious diseases. ending thirty one years of American presence in the Dunoon area. I did not have any idea that Scotland is so beautiful. Kilmun Parish Church and Argyll Mausoleum is said to stand where Saint Munn's church was once located. I was. I will always remember how polite the people were there and I miss being there at times. All I have to say is what a beautiful place to be stationed and to this day its crazy on how much I still miss it . Mike, Thanks. Dennis Shepard shepardchief49@gmail.com. and the Firth of Clyde was one of the Royal Navys major submarine areas. I even picked up a heavy brogue! Do you know if it is possible to tour the closed facility? All personnel lived ashore, residing in rooms or homes rented from members of the local community. Came close to getting "hitched" to a lass from Falkirk. At Sandbank, the Robertson's Yard built famous wooden 12- and 15 . Specialties: American Veterans Care Association's goals are to create and promote a supportive system of care long denied to American and Native American Veterans after their absence in civilian life due to the demands of having served under the United States Armed Forces. All repair parts had to be air lifted in since sub tenders don't carry destroyer parts. More facilities are to be provided in the area for community use including a 2 million refurbishment of the Drumfork Centre in Churchill Square, due to be completed by 2018 while the MoD's longer-term wish list includes hopes for a new railway station at Shandon for those working at Faslane. In 1982, Naval Support Activity (NAVSUPPACT), Forward Base, Holy Loch, Scotland became its own command. November 1, 1960 Harold Macmillan, the British Prime Minister, announced that there would be an American nuclear base on the Clyde. The Russians knew we were their and feared our Submarine Force and those who supported it. Unless we have a merchant marine, our navy if called upon for offensive or defensive work is going to be most defective.William Howard Taft (18571930), February 1964, completed the first "off center" docking of a Polaris submarine. Oh my. In either event any benefit to Anglo-American relations would be largely lost., A final missive sent on 22 February 1968 confirms that the MoD was forced to make a humiliating U-turn on the proposed royal visit, As noted above, the first US ship arrived in the Holy Loch on March 3, 1961, making 2011 the 50th anniversary of the event, and the event was marked by an article in the Dunoonn Observer online. [^50 years since US Navy arrival Retrieved March 05, 2011.^]. The Scottish people have to be the nicest, most humble people I have ever met. Don't forget Berts. I saw the biggest snow flakes in my life there as big as half dollars, milk delivered with thick cream on top and the coal delivery guy was 5' at best but carried two giant bags of coal for us to heat with! Holy Loch: The Scottish American Connection Frank L. Gosselin 3.67 3 ratings1 review This book reveals the history of the U.S. Navy's presence for 31 years, from 1961 to 1992, at a location in the Scottish Highlands during the Cold War, and the resulting interaction between the Scottish and American men and women. We stand ready to provide a lifetime of support to veterans of all generations, their families and their survivors at no cost. Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License, Queen Mother kept from US nuclear base in Scotland - The Scotsman, Helensburgh set to swell under wave of 1.3bn Navy expansion - Helensburgh Advertiser), The British government and the American Polaris base in the Clyde, Journal for Maritime Reserch, 2001, Department of Defence Legacy Cold War Project, USS Daniel Boone SSBN-629 Refit 39, Holy Loch, Scotland, December 1978- January 1979, January 1963, the Proteus was relieved by the, August 1966, the Hunley was relieved by the, May 1970, the Simon Lake was relieved the. As a writer, he has attended police academy training, gone out on patrol with police officers, accompanied detectives as they worked cases, accompanied narcotics officers on drug raids, observed criminal court proceedings, visited jails and prisons, and covered street riots, mob wars and murder investigations. The MoD is also rethinking its plan to build a new all-weather sports facility at Ardenconnel in Rhu, and is instead looking at other sites in the wider area. Thanks for the info and the link to the history of Holy Loch. Four months later the Americans arrived. I served on the drydock (63-66) during which the name was changed from USS-AFDB-7 to USS LOS ALAMOS AFDB-7. I am trying to find old friends, shipmates that he was with so I can invite them to a surprise 40th wedding anniversary party for he and .my sister, Janet Williams Shannon. Thanks for writing about him. Jesse J. Pitt MDI served on the USS Sam Rayburn submarine during the cold war & was the last physician stationed on a nuclear sub. Wished I could have stayed much longer. YEAH, THAT WAS THE BEST FISH & CHIPS, WRAPPED IN NEWS PRINT. Paul,My dad, Paul Hord, served on the USS Proteus, in the Holy Loch from about Aug. 1962 through June 1963. Mary T. Loch, 66, of Milford, beloved wife of the late Raymond Loch, passed away peacefully on Sunday, December 25, 2022. . Thanks! He went on to do security work as a Defense Department civilian while working part-time as a freelance writer. Saw a newspaper in August '66 that had a headline: "70 AGAIN TOMORROW, NO RELIEF IN SIGHT", Tom, Yes, I agree with you about the pubs and fish & chips. From the mail, milk and spare parts you brought us to the target practice you provided you tug boat guys were the unsung heroes of the site. In 1992, the base was dee. On the USS canopus was in 2nd division took the canopus back to Charleston enjoyed. . According to local legend, the sand was to have been used for the construction of a local church. And yes, I too always say I'm going back. They often took me to their home for a Scottish dinner. Holy Loch now is the only remaining U.S. base for nuclear missile-armed submarines outside the U.S. Its 2,000 soldiers, with 150 American civilians and 2,000 dependents, have become a fixture in . They busted our butts on the tug, but the liberty time was good.My two years - 1974-1975 - on the Navy tugboat USS Saugus allowed me the ability to travel far and wide. lepers; building or ship for performing quarantine in; after part of ship's hold used for stores.". This book reveals the history of the U.S. Navy's presence for 31 years, from 1961 to 1992, at a location in the Scottish Highlands during the Cold War, and the resulting interaction between the Scottish and American men and women. Valued Relationships. Mary T. Loch. He enlisted in the Navy in 1959 and retired in 1985. US submarine refit facility Site One Dot,I'm sorry to say that the Holy Loch submarine base, stationed in the middle of the loch, is gone. Yeah, Mike. Anselmo has passed on, but the fish and chips are still SO good! Paul, great article. I remember A.J. Always wanted to go back to visit to see who was still living there. Agreement for the use of Holy Loch was reached near the end of 1960 and the arrival of the first tender, USS Proteus (AS-19) scheduled for December. Approximately one mile across, the loch extends inland for between two and three miles the west, depending on the tide. Dear Paul, I visited Dunoon Scotland in the summer of 1977. Jesse,Thanks for your service and thanks for writing.Paul. We watched and waved off the very last ship to leave the holy loch for good it was an experience I am just looking to find out the name of the ship docked around that time of 1989 if you know please, hello Paul my name is Steven Hadley and I served on board the Saugus from 1977 to 79 and I loved it I had a great time. From 1961-1992, it was used as a US Polaris . In January 2014, declassified state documents opened and placed in the National Archives at Kew, revealed that the MoD had supported proposals which could have seen a royal visit take place at the American base: THE Queen Mother was banned from visiting an American nuclear base in Scotland, newly released files have revealed. p.src = '//rum-static.pingdom.net/prum.min.js'; Just read and enjoyed all the articles people wrote about the Holy Loch. I was about four and my dad, Bill Hahn, was stationed on the Canopus and later the James Madison. Take care and I appreciate your article. Great memories!! I wouldn't have any problem living there after my retirement. Proteus, arrived on station March 3, 1961.) I re-visited Holy Loch in 1992, it was sad to see the base removed.Best Regards,David (Pod) Podurgiel EN3, David,Glad to hear from you. On April 2, 1987, the USS Mariano G Vallejo (SSBN 658), completed the 2,500th Ballistic Missile Deterrent Patrol to be carried out by the submarine fleet. The call is free and confidential (private). they were based at the holy loch in 69 and went to America with the girls in 71. google_cpa_choice = 'CAAQl6_zzwEaCNYAUlKOkBwoKPm093MwAA'; The Holy Loch was a Royal Navy Submarine base during World War II Their bank stood on what is now the Co-op car park. November 1, 2020 A small group of Scots and Americans are announcing the launch of a website to tell the story of the American years. FAQs | FIND A POST | TERMS OF USE | PRIVACY POLICY Copyright AMVETS National Headquarters. Maybe in the near futureThanks for writing.Paul. Copyright 1999 ~ All Rights Reserved. Thanks for checking in.Paul. Thrift Store Donations: (800) 810-7148. Also spent several days ported at Greenock. Charlie, I'd like to visit Dunoon again and bring my wife (but it would have to be in summer! My friend's flat was next to the news agent and the butcher shop, I recall, but I suppose many things have changed - even there. At this time, my friend Richard and myself decided to form an association so we established the Holy Loch American Veterans Association (HLAVA). The monument has become a focal point for American personnel who served at the US Submarine Base which was located there for 31 years, until 1992. was completed by USS Mariano G. Vallejo (SSBN 658). The Ministry of Defence hoped the high-profile visit would act as a demonstration of British gratitude for American military support and shore up the special relationship between the two countries. Its on my bucket list to return! //]]>. RM E139G0 - Feb. 29, 2012 - POLARIS SUBMARINE ARRIVES IN HOLY LOCH The 6700-ton American Polaris submarine ''PATRICK HENRY'' arrived in the RM BE3YDY - Looking north up towards Holy Loch from Kirn, Argyl and Bute, Scotland. About. I was on the Holland 76-77 and loved it. Private bathroom. I went to the local primary and secondary school with many Americans and I have always felt a connection No matter where you go in the world theres always someone with a Dunoon story or memory. Its uncanny. Thanx for sharing, I was a US kid from 1986-1990 there. I'm in contact with a couple of guys from the Saugus. The object of "HLAVA", a non-profit military veterans organization, is to serve as a local association to support and assist its members; to provide a focal point for information; to cultivate and. Great memories! Support Activity. They stayed for 31 years. I cant ask him because its a surprise party! This message board is for former shipmates of CSS-14 who would like to discuss having a reunion or discuss how a recent reunion went . Orville Lee Gooden. I remember you. I remember the USS Skipjack coming in and also Canadian and Australian boats also .As we who were fortunate know Scotland is a beautiful country,and is on my bucket list to return !! I JUST DID A VIRTUAL WALK THROUGH DUNOON AND SAW THE NAVY WAS NO LONGER THERE. My dentist here in Maine had served on the last sub-tender before the base shut down. Thanks for mentioning some of the roles the old tugboats performed.I remember serving as a moving target when you guys in the subs shot torpedoes at us. Thank. google_ad_width = 120; The Holy Loch (Scottish Gaelic An Loch SiantaSeunta) is a Sea Loch, a part of the Cowal peninsula coast of the Firth of Clyde, in Argyll and Bute, Scotland. What a bummer. 1: 2: Looking for charles jerome hudson by possilgirl Oct 10, 2005 8:25:07 GMT -5: CSS-14 Staff Reunions. 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